Psikologi Transformatif: Re: [psikologi_transformatif] Love and freedom are not separate things

There is wisdom in Nature and knowledge in Scholarship. Nature
teaches us what works and what doesn't work. Knowledge teaches us
how to use our senses, how to observe nature, how to evaluate it, how
to record life lessons, and how others before us did the same. We
first learn wisdom in life by experience, (usually painful
experience) and then as we grow, we recognize wisdom in life by
example. Through knowledge and wisdom, we eliminate fear, which
produces understanding. We begin to understand who we are and why we
are here. We recognize with generosity, others stumbling while
seeking their way, and develop a keen awareness and love for the
miracle that is all Life - and that includes oneself.

There is no spell to achieve this. Wisdom is a life long
experience. You must seek knowledge to awaken wisdom. The more we
know, the more we realize how much we don't know. The wiser we grow,
the more wisdom we sense is yet to be discovered. With each step, we
grow larger in each other´s sight, we grow larger in the sight of the
gods, and it follows, the gods grow larger within us. Experiencing
this knowledge, we find true humility and peace from the inside out.

But do the spell anyway, to open that first door.
(Ardriana Cahill)
.........

Sewaktu Hendrik Syiah menjawab "PEDAS " terhadap 'tantangan' Pak
Jusuf soal rasa cabe, maka saya menilai jawaban itu menukik tepat di
jantung penanya.

Berlebihan dalam sesuatu pandangan akhirnya akan jatuh pada sisi
dimana pandangan tersebut kurang mempunyai landasan nalar yang sehat
dan seimbang.

Pengetahuan dan pengalaman berjalan beriringan.

Bisa jadi petugas travel akhirnya bisa pergi ke tujuan wisata, karena
pengetahuannya membuat dia bisa menjalin relasi dan menciptakan
network. Dan memudahkan dia menjadi guide. Dengan begitu suatu saat
dia bisa pergi wisata. Hal seperti ini barangkali tidak berlaku bagi
teller bank.

Knowledge management tidak mengharuskan orang mengalami dahulu.

Salam,
WK

--- In psikologi_transformatif@yahoogroups.com, Jusuf Sutanto
<jusuf_sw@...> wrote:
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> Intinya adalah berlatih dan terus berlatih sampai menjadi second
nature shg bisa muncul spontan dan akurat pada saat diperlukan. Kalau
hanya konseptualisasi dan verbalisme saja. maka seperti petugas
travel agent yang mengumpulkan berbagai brosur dan menawarkan tujuan
wisata di seluruh dunia, tapi dia sendiri belum pernah pergi
mengunjunginya
> Atau teller di Bank yang menerima pemasukan dan mengeluarkan
milliaran uang tapi bukan miliknya sendiri !
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> Topik: [psikologi_transformatif] Love and freedom are not separate
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> Osho, Book of Wisdom
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> Man's greatest longing is for freedom. Man is a longing for
freedom. Freedom is the very essential core of human consciousness:
Love is its circumference and freedom is its center. These two
fulfilled, life has no regret. And they both are fulfilled together,
never separately.
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> People have tried to fulfill love without freedom. Then love
brings more and more misery, more and more bondage. Then love is not
what one has expected it to be; it turns out just the opposite. It
shatters all hopes, it destroys all expectations, and life becomes a
wasteland, a groping in darkness and never finding the door.
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> Love without freedom naturally tends to be possessive. And the
moment possessiveness enters in, you start creating bondage for
others and bondage for yourself, because you cannot possess somebody
without being possed
> by him. You cannot make somebody a slave without becoming a slave
yourself. Whatsoever you do to others is done to you.
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> This is the basic principal to be understood, that love without
freedom never brings fulfillment.
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> And there have been people who have tried the other extreme,
freedom without love. These are the monks, the escapists, the people
who renounce the world. Afraid of love, afraid of love because it
brings bondage, they renounce all the situations where love can flow,
grow, can happen, is possible. They escape into loneliness. Their
loneliness never becomes aloneness, it remains loneliness. And
loneliness is a negative state; it is utterly empty, it is sad.
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> One can be a solitary, but that does not bring solitude.
Solitariness is just physical aloneness, solitude is spiritual
aloneness. If you are just
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you have escaped from the world out of fear, you will be lonely, the
world will haunt you and all kinds of desires will surround you. You
will suffer millions of nightmares, because whatsoever you have
renounced cannot be dropped so easily.
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> Renunciation is repression and nothing else. And the more you
repress a thing, the more you need to repress it. And the more you
go on repressing it, the more powerful it becomes. It will erupt in
your dreams, it will erupt in your hallucinations. People living in
the monasteries start hallucinating, people going to the Himalayan
caves sooner or later are no more in contact with reality. They
start creating a reality of their own, a private reality, a
fictitious reality. . . . .
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> On the one hand is the person, the worldly person, who has tried
to find love without
> freedom and has failed. His life is nothing but a long, long
slavery of many, many people, of many, many things. He is not free
to have even a slight movement. That is one failure; the majority
of humanity is caught in that extreme.
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> A few escape from the world: seeing the misery, they start
searching the other extreme; freedom, moksha, nirvana. But they
become neurotic, psychotic, they start living in their own dreams.
Loneliness is so much that one has to create something to be with.
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> Both these extreme efforts have failed. Hence humanity stands on
a crossroads: where to go? The past has utterly failed. All the
efforts that we have done in the past proved wrong, led to cul-de-
sacs. Now where to go? What to do?
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> Atisha has an important message to deliver to you. And that
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> message of all the Buddhas, of all the enlightened people of the
world. They say: Love and freedom are not separate things, you
cannot choose. Either you will have to have both, or you will have
to have dropped both. But you cannot choose, you cannot have one.
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> One has to grow in such delicate balance where love and freedom
can bloom together. And they can, because it few rare individuals it
has happened. And if it has happened to only a single individual in
the whole history, it can happen to
> every human being. It is your potential, your birthright?.
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> From: Osho, Book of Wisdom, Vol. II pp. 260-263
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