Psikologi Transformatif

Jumat, 30 November 2007

[psikologi_transformatif] eyy lupa... tinta dibawa ke dokter hewan gaa??? mba isti dibawa gaa???

eyyy syapa aja tuh yg dibawa ke dokter hewan tuhhh... gue tu mank
kpengen tau aja gitu... kalu gue bilang seyy tu tinta kambing guling
mank musti dibawa tuuhhh.... eyy mba isti juga tuhhh... hihihihi....

--- In psikologi_transformatif@yahoogroups.com, Ani Munafich
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> eyyy gue tu baru tau kalu vinsen uda dibawa ke dokter hewan
tuuuhhh.... smoga cepet sembuh deyyy ... hihihihi
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[psikologi_transformatif] vinsen uda dibawa ke dokter hewan yaaaaa ... ????

eyyy gue tu baru tau kalu vinsen uda dibawa ke dokter hewan tuuuhhh.... smoga cepet sembuh deyyy ... hihihihi

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From: was_swas <was_swas@yahoo.com>
To: psikologi_transformatif@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2007 8:50:41 AM
Subject: [psikologi_transformatif] Re: Fwd: Pentingnya Data (Mohon Penjelasan Moderator Dokter_Hewan)

Hmmm... just curiousity aja :)

Apakah sebentar lagi CV Pak Yonathan Rahardjo akan didaftarkan dalam
"deretan" anggota "kubu" pabrik_t ;)? Dan tindakannya menyunting email
ini akan ditambahkan dalam daftar "teror" gerakan pabrik_t ;)?

*nonton aaaah... sambil ngunyah kacang garing ;)*

--- In psikologi_transform atif@yahoogroups .com, "vincentliong"
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> e-link: http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ Dokter_Hewan/ message/6664
> --- In Dokter_Hewan@ yahoogroups. com, "Yonathan Rahardjo"
> yonathanrahardjo@ wrote:
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> Sdr Vincent Liong..
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> Karena tulisan Anda tidak ada hubungannya sama sekali dengan topik
> milis ini (kedokteran hewan/ peternakan) sesuai dengan aturan main
> di milis ini,
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> maka moderator mengedit tulisan Anda, (termasuk isi postingan Anda
> yang ada tulisan Audifax)..
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> dari sekian banyak tulisan tersebut, yang tersisa dan masih terkait
> dengan isu KH/P adalah tulisan Audifax yang juga Anda posting dalam
> postingan Anda tersebut.
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> Hal tersebut sudah dijelaskan dalam editing tersebut, termasuk
> judulnya diganti moderator sesuai dengan isi tulisan yang tersisa.
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> Kiranya Anda memahami kebijakan di milis ini, yang sudah berulang
> kali disampaikan.
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> Terimakasih,
> moderator
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> --- In Dokter_Hewan@ yahoogroups. com, "vincentliong"
> <vincentliong@ > wrote:
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> > Saya Vincent Liong tidak pernah mengirim tulisan
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> > Data" ke maillist ini. Yang saya kirim hanya tulisan berjudul:
> >
> > "Issue Pemerkosaan dan Sex Bebas untuk Merusak Nama Baik
> Kompatiologi"
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> > Mengapa email saya dihapus bahkan diganti judul dan isinya lalu
> malah
> > memasukkan tulisan Audifax ? Mohon penjelasan tertulis moderator...
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> > Ttd,
> > Vincent Liong

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[psikologi_transformatif] 5 Golden Rules Choosing the Life Partner

A relationship coach lays out his 5 golden rules for evaluating the
prospects of long-term success.

When it comes to making the decision about choosing a life partner, no
one wants to make a mistake. Yet, with a divorce rate of close to 50
percent, it appears that many are making serious mistakes in their
approach to finding Mr/Ms Right!

If you ask most couples who are engaged why they're getting married,
they'll say: "We're in love." I believe this is the #1 mistake people
make when they date.

Choosing a life partner should never be based on love (alone).

Though this may sound not politically correct, there's a profound
truth here. Love (alone) is not the basis for getting married. Rather,
love is the result of a good marriage. When the other ingredients are
right, then the love will come.

Let me say it again: You can't build a lifetime relationship on love
alone. You need a lot more. Here are five questions you must ask
yourself if you're serious about finding and keeping a life partner.

QUESTION #1:
Do we share a common life purpose?

Why is this so important? Let me put it this way: If you're married
for 20 or 30 years, that's a long time to live with someone.

What do you plan to do with each other all that time? Travel, eat and
jog together? You need to share something deeper and more meaningful.
You need a common life purpose. Two things can happen in a marriage:

 You can grow together, or
 you can grow apart.

50 percent of the people out there are growing apart. To make a
marriage work, you need to know what you want out of life - bottom
line - and marry someone who wants the same thing.

QUESTION #2:
Do I feel safe expressing my feelings and thoughts with this person?

This question goes to the core of the quality of your relationship.

Feeling safe means you can communicate openly with this person. The
basis of having good communication is trust! i.e. trust that I won't
get "punished" or hurt for expressing my honest thoughts and feelings.

A colleague of mine defines an abusive person as someone with whom you
feel afraid to express your thoughts and feelings. Be honest with
yourself on this one. Make sure you feel emotionally safe with the
person you plan to marry.

QUESTION #3:
Is s/he a mensch?

A mensch is someone who is a refined and sensitive person. How can you
test? Here are some suggestions:

 Do they work on personal growth on a regular basis?
 Are they serious about improving themselves?

A teacher of mine defines a good person as "someone who is always
striving to be good and do the right thing". So, ask about your
significant other: What do they do with their time? Is this person
materialistic?

Usually, a materialistic person is not someone whose top priority is
character refinement. There are essentially two types of people in the
world:

 People who are dedicated to personal growth, and
 People who are dedicated to seeking comfort.

Someone whose goal in life is to be comfortable will put personal
comfort ahead of doing the right thing. You need to know that before
walking down the aisle.

QUESTION #4:
How does he/she treat other people?

The one most important thing that makes any relationship work is the
ability to give. By giving, we mean the ability to give another person
pleasure.

Ask: Is this someone who enjoys giving pleasure to others or are they
wrapped up in themselves and self-absorbed? To measure this, think
about the following:

 How do they treat people whom they do not have to be nice to, such
as waiters, bus boys, taxi drivers, etc?
 How do they treat parents and siblings? Do they have gratitude and
appreciation?
 Do they show respect? If they don't have gratitude for the people
who have given them everything, you cannot expect that they'll have
gratitude for you - who can't do nearly as much for them!
 Do they gossip and speak badly about others? Someone who gossips
cannot be someone who loves others. You can be sure that someone who
treats others poorly, will eventually treat you poorly as well.

QUESTION #5:
Is there anything I'm hoping to change about this person after we're
married?

Too many people make the mistake of marrying someone with the
intention of trying to "improve" them after they're married. As a
colleague of mine puts it, "You can probably expect someone to change
after marriage ... for the worse!"

If you cannot fully accept this person the way they are now,
then you are not ready to marry them.

In conclusion, dating doesn't have to be difficult and treacherous.
The key is to try leading a little more with your head and less with
your heart. It pays to be as objective as possible when you are
dating, to be sure to ask questions that will help you get to the key
issues.

Falling in love is a great feeling, but when you wake up with a ring
on your finger, you don't want to find yourself in trouble because you
didn't do your homework.

Subject:
How willl I know If I've Met the Person I Should Marry?

The choice of a marriage partner should not be based on "I get a warm,
wonderful feeling whenever we're together and I want to have that warm
wonderful feeling forever, so let's go get married".

Feelings, as we have discussed, have no logic on their own. They need
to be acknowledged, of course, but they need considerable assistance
from your brain.

Marriage means choosing the person you will spend the rest of your
life with. This, as you may have guessed, is a very long time to spend
with one person. This person will live with you, eat meals with you,
sleep with you and go on vacation with you. More important yet, this
person will share your children. You need to choose wisely. The
decision should not be made based on feelings alone. You need to ask
yourself some tough questions. The decisions have to be made on solid
considerations:

1. Will this person be a good partner?
2. Is s/he prepared to be a good provider?
3. Is s/he responsible enough to get a good job and keep it?
4. What is her/his track record?
5. Will this person be a good parent?
6. Is s/he mature enough to put her/him own selfish desires aside to
look out for what is best for the family?
7. Can you stand the thought of your children turning out exactly like
this person?
They will, you know. Children spend a lot of time with their parents
and consequently pick up many or most of their parents' character
traits. You had better like your spouse's traits a lot because you
will be seeing them again in your children.

If something were to happen to you, would you completely trust this
person, alone, with the task of raising and forming your children?
This is not a pleasant thought, but it is an important consideration.
Not everyone dies at a ripe old age with great grandchildren gathered
around the bed.

Sometimes a parent dies and leaves young children in the care of the
other parent. If you feel that you would need to be around to correct
or lessen this person's influence on your children, then you are
considering the wrong person.

Does this person share your faith in God? God does not give us
children so that we can mould them into the coolest, most popular
people in school. Our job is to get them to heaven. To do that, we
need to raise them believing in God. It is tough to do that if only
one parent believes.

Saying "This is right and that is wrong, and I want you to ignore
Mommy until you are thirty-five" does not work. Small children ask
about eight million questions in a single day. The answers to those
questions go a long way toward forming the kind of adults they will
become. Who will be answering those questions for your children?

Does this person you are marrying have sexual self-control? Single
people sometimes have this idea that marriage is just some kind of
lifelong sex festival and that as long as they have each other, they
will never be tempted by other people. Wrong!

There are many times in every marriage when one partner or the other
is sexually unavailable - illness, the last months of pregnancy,
travel. There are also times when spouses, just get on each others'
nerves.

At times like this, other people can seem very appealing. That can be
dangerous, because there are plenty of very attractive people out
there who are willing to make themselves available to married men and
women. Do you want someone who has never said "no" to sex? If he is
not good at saying "no" at eighteen, it won't be different at forty.
Do you want to worry about whether or not your Spouse is being faithful?

These are very important questions, and if you are not comfortable
with all of the answers, you should definitely not marry this person.

None if this is to say that feelings play no role at all in a marriage
decision. You don't have to, "Well, I suppose that you would make a
good spouse and parent, so even though I don't particularly like you I
guess I'll marry you'".

You need to be happy and excited about the prospect of spending your
life with someone. Your brain however must acknowledge that this
person as a good choice.

Don't listen to your heart alone nor your head alone.
Wait until your heart and head agree.

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[psikologi_transformatif] Re: Indigo? Bedanya INDIGO dengan JENIUS

HAYO SIAPA YANG PERNAH MENULIS EMAIL INI!
SEMOGA --HUND-MEISTER-- SEKARANG MENILAI KELAKUAN ANJING PAVLOV ANDA.

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Re: Indigo? Bedanya INDIGO dengan JENIUS

> Were Einstein, Galileo and Isaac Newton Indigo Children?

Sudah pasti BUKAN. Einstein, Galileo dan Isaac Newton adalah JENIUS
(genius). Memang ada beberapa kesamaan antara gejala2 kejiwaan
manusia jenius dengan manusia2 indigo. Adanya beberapa kesamaan
inilah yang belakangan ini (sejak th. 1970?) telah di-SALAH-GUNA-kan
oleh kalangan tertentu untuk menjajarkan dirinya sendiri setingkat
dengan manusia2 jenius, se-mata2 demi memuaskan ambisinya yang
justru berbanding terbalik dengan kemampuannya. Yang benar, JENIUS
itu se-mata2 ditentukan oleh Intelligent Quotient (IQ) yang bisa
diukur dengan kepastian 10%. Jadi gampang sekali untuk membedakan
JENIUS daripada INDIGO. Yaitu, ukur (test) saja IQnya. Jika diatas
160 (ada yang bilang 180, mungkin tergantung dari jenis testnya)
maka tidak bisa disalah-artikan lagi dia adalah manusia JENIUS.
Tetapi jika ternyata IQ-nya biasa2 saja, atau malah dibawah normal
(=100) maka JELAS dia adalah manusia INDIGO, atau dengan perkataan
lain manusia BEGO (sama2 GO-nya).

Lebih jelas lagi dibawah ini saya rinci perbedaannya:
> 1. Innovators energized by ideas
Jika para jenius adalah innovator (penemu) yang tergugah oleh ide2
yang baru, anak2 indigo cuma bikin fantasi atas ide2 yang muluk2.

> 2. Dreamers passionate about larger purposes
Penemuan2 baru oleh para innovator yg jenius berguna buat kemakmuran
umat manusia. Fantasi atau impiannya para indigo hanya memuaskan
dirinya sendiri dan menipu masyarakat sekitarnya yang sama2 BEGO-nya.

> 3. Creators
Kreasi para jenius terutama dalam bentuk ilmu yang sangat canggih,
yang sulit dimengerti oleh orang biasa, tetapi sangat berguna buat
masyarakat, seperti ilmu mekanikanya Newton, teori kuantum dan teori
relativitasnya Einstein. Anak2 indigo cuma menelorkan *kreasi* yang
bernilai SAMPAH, tidak ada gunanya buat manusia/masyarakat, dan akan
hilang/musna dan dilupakan orang dalam tempo singkat, sebab tidak
ada FAKTA-nya, seperti misalnya ilmu2 kleniknya Mme. Blavatski dan
ramalan2nya Edgar Cayce, juga ilmu tarot-nya VL dan black-magicnya
Byron Black.

> 4. Intuitive, empathetic feelers sensitive to their environment
> 5. Experiential doers who work independently with boundless energy
Karena dedikasinya buat sesama manusia, baik dengan pikiran maupun
dengan kerja keras, maka para jenius sanggup menciptakan karya2 yang
berguna buat umat manusia. Sedangkan para indigo cuma berambisi
besar ingin membuat dirinya mashur dan makmur melebihi manusia lain
dengan segala cara, misalnya dengan memasang nomor kontonya sendiri
agar supaya bisa diisi tetapi tidak boleh diambil. Tetapi karena
dia tidak punya SKILL maupun IQ yang cukup dan memadai, akhirnya
cuma bisa menipu orang lain doang, misalnya dengan ramalan2 kartu
tarotnya yang semua meleset, tapi dibuat olehnya sedemikian rupa
hingga memuaskan ambisi para langganannya, hingga uang bisa masuk
kedalam kontonya.

> 6. Risk-takers unafraid to challenge the norm
> 7. Persistent, defiant, resilient contrarians
Jika para JENIUS dengan itikadnya yang gigih dampaknya bisa menjadi
terkenal dengan nama harum sepanjang sejarah berkat ciptaan2 dan
penemuan2nya yang berguna buat manusia, kaum INDIGO dengan keras-
kepalanya dampaknya akan menjadi penjahat2 kriminal, atau paling
jauhnya parasit2 KKN yang merugikan masyarakat, hingga akan dihujat
sepanjang sejarah (jika masih diingat, seperti misalnya Hitler).

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[beasiswa] [INFO] Internship Program at Bosch & Siemens Group

Syaratnya cuma satu: lagi kuliah di luar negeri (BUKAN di Indonesia). Kontak
langsung sama orangnya yah, jangan sama sayah.

cheers,

-tri-

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From: "Tantri Kadiman" <tantri_k@hotmail.com>
To: 15396@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:57:18 +0700
Subject: [15396] Internship Program at Bosch & Siemens Group

Temen2,

Gue lagi nyari mahasiswa Indonesia yang lagi kuliah di luar yang bersedia
menjalankan internship di Bosch und Siemens Hausgeraete GmbH di Indonesia
selama 6 bulan. Mungkin ada yang punya kenalan/sepupu/ponakan/temen yang
berminat?

Kami akan membayar uang transport dari negara tempatnya kuliah (Australia,
Jerman, Belanda, US, dsb.) ke dan dari Indonesia dan menyediakan "pocket
money" EUR750/bulan.

Thanks.

Tantri.

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[psikologi_transformatif] Re: Fwd: Pentingnya Data (Mohon Penjelasan Moderator Dokter_Hewan)

Hmmm... just curiousity aja :)

Apakah sebentar lagi CV Pak Yonathan Rahardjo akan didaftarkan dalam
"deretan" anggota "kubu" pabrik_t ;)? Dan tindakannya menyunting email
ini akan ditambahkan dalam daftar "teror" gerakan pabrik_t ;)?

*nonton aaaah... sambil ngunyah kacang garing ;)*

--- In psikologi_transformatif@yahoogroups.com, "vincentliong"
<vincentliong@...> wrote:
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> e-link: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Dokter_Hewan/message/6664
> --- In Dokter_Hewan@yahoogroups.com, "Yonathan Rahardjo"
> yonathanrahardjo@ wrote:
>
> Sdr Vincent Liong..
>
> Karena tulisan Anda tidak ada hubungannya sama sekali dengan topik
> milis ini (kedokteran hewan/ peternakan) sesuai dengan aturan main
> di milis ini,
>
> maka moderator mengedit tulisan Anda, (termasuk isi postingan Anda
> yang ada tulisan Audifax)..
>
> dari sekian banyak tulisan tersebut, yang tersisa dan masih terkait
> dengan isu KH/P adalah tulisan Audifax yang juga Anda posting dalam
> postingan Anda tersebut.
>
> Hal tersebut sudah dijelaskan dalam editing tersebut, termasuk
> judulnya diganti moderator sesuai dengan isi tulisan yang tersisa.
>
> Kiranya Anda memahami kebijakan di milis ini, yang sudah berulang
> kali disampaikan.
>
> Terimakasih,
> moderator
>
>
> --- In Dokter_Hewan@yahoogroups.com, "vincentliong"
> <vincentliong@> wrote:
> >
> > Saya Vincent Liong tidak pernah mengirim tulisan
> berjudul "Pentingnya
> > Data" ke maillist ini. Yang saya kirim hanya tulisan berjudul:
> >
> > "Issue Pemerkosaan dan Sex Bebas untuk Merusak Nama Baik
> Kompatiologi"
> >
> > Mengapa email saya dihapus bahkan diganti judul dan isinya lalu
> malah
> > memasukkan tulisan Audifax ? Mohon penjelasan tertulis moderator...
> >
> > Ttd,
> > Vincent Liong

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[psikologi_transformatif] Re: Aku lebih suka bentuk ketiga dahulu.

"ario makaribi" <makaribi@yahoo.com> wrote:

* Bentuk ketiga adalah peng-ilmiah-an kompatiologi
biar menjadi ilmu yang bisa dipelajari dan
dikembangkan terus menerus, siapa tahu bisa menjadi
cabang ilmu psikologi.

Vincent Liong answer:

Terus terang saya tidak tertarik kompatiologi dikatkan
dengan kelembagaan psikologi, masalahnya psikologi
banyak bermain di etika prilaku sehingga cenderung
bersifat menghakimi. Mungkin lebih nyambung ke
psikiatri yang hal psikologinya lebih terkait dengan
fungsi tekhnis organ tubuh manusia. Itupun bukan
kepentingan saya tetapi kepentingan para anggota
kelompok ilmiah saja karena target kebenaran yang
diusung berbeda, meski demikian halnya saya tetap
membuka kesempatan ke arah tsb.

Saya malah sekarang lagi mencoba mengembangkan
dekonstruksi dengan dimensi pemaknaan yang lebih luas
daripada rasa, perasaan, dlsb tetapi tentunya akan
lebih terbatas lagi jumlah ahli yang bisa dilahirkan
dibanding dekonstruksi kompatiologi yang pemaknaannya
di dimensi rasa, perasaan.

"ario makaribi" <makaribi@yahoo.com> wrote:

Nuruddin Asyhadie adalah personil "komunitas Mangun
Semi". Slogan yang diusung: "Kehidupan adalah ruang
bersama yang saling tidak menindas" tentu saja sebagai
lulusan filsafat ia mempunyai ideologi. Coba kamu
deskripsikan data ini dan lainnya menurut
pengukuranmu.

Praktisi Psikologi yang lain "yang menyerang" kamu,
lebih pada sentimen pribadi. Deskripsikan sendiri apa
itu. Kamu kan peka.

Vincent Liong answer:

Selogan dibuat untuk diteriakkan demi politik
memainkan logika orang lain untuk tujuan sendiri,
tetapi bukan untuk dilaksanakan, saya melihat hal itu
dari diri Nuruddin Asyhadie, tidak tahu apakah
komunitas komunitas Mangun Semi sama dengan itu atau
tidak. Yang jelas salahsatu personilnya yaitu Nuruddin
Asyhadie mampu menjalankan semboyan tersebut hanya di
ruang eksklusif yang disombongkannya, komunitasnya
sendiri saja, orang-orang awam di luar itu bisa dengan
mudahnya dianggap rendah seperti binatang sehingga
dianggap boleh diperlakukan secara tidak manusiawi.

Definisi kebenaran yang dikejar oleh orang semacam
saya dan orang seperti Nuruddin Asyhadie dan orang
Psikologi adalah berbeda. Kalau Nuruddin Asyhadie dan
orang Psikologi kebenaran itu yang harus sesuai dengan
kerangka logika lembaga / kelompok / aliran pemikiran
yang dianutnya. Kalau saya kebenaran itu harus berguna
bagi orang banyak, dalam hal ini diukur dari bagaimana
reaksi masyarakat awam pengguna kompatiologi terhadap
kompatiologi. Maka dari itu orang seperti Nuruddin
Asyhadie dan orang Psikologi yang menyerang saya tidak
merasa melanggar kebenaran orang awam (moral dasar)
meski melakukan berbagai tindakan teror, cacimaki dan
ngomong jorok demi merugikan saya.

Jadi kebenaran menurut Nuruddin Asyhadie dan orang
Psikologi bersifat eksklusif pada diri mereka sendiri,
orangg awam dianggap tidak mengerti dan tidak cukup
pintar untuk tahu atau berkomentar, jadi tidak ada
prasyarat dianggap berguna oleh pengguna yang non
anggota komunitas dengan keyakinan yang sama. Kalau
menurut kompatiologi kebenaran itu tidak harus nurut
lembaga / kelompok / aliran pemikiran tertentu, yang
penting sesuatu bisa dikatakan benar kalau masyakarat
pengguna menganggapnya berguna, bukan urusan
masyarakat pengamat yang menjudgement tetapi selalu
menyombongkan diri menjaga jarak dari realita ala
orang awam.

Ttd,
Vincent Liong
Sabtu, 1 Desember 2007

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