Psikologi Transformatif: Re: [psikologi_transformatif] Re: Selesaikan dulu seksmu, baru bicara spiritualitas!

Senin, 12 November 2007

Re: [psikologi_transformatif] Re: Selesaikan dulu seksmu, baru bicara spiritualitas!

yuhuuuuuu.........hai hai hai...

wah, menerjemahkan kaya miskin nya naif banget sih?

bukankah pemahaman kaya miskin itu tidak selalu berangkat dari kebendaan, status ekonomi dan sosial?

bude Tih

On 11/12/07, goenardjoadi <goenardjoadi@gmail.com> wrote:

soal belajar spiritualitas, gak ada hubungannya dengan kaya-miskin.
jaman dulu orang belajar dari empu-empu, atau belajar di kuil
Shaolin malah kebanyakan orang miskin,

kalau orang kaya kebanyakan maunya jadi pejabat, ngapain jadi bhiksu?

salam,
goen

--- In psikologi_transformatif@yahoogroups.com, "Nani Sujiwo"
<nsujiwo@...> wrote:
>
> On Nov 12, 2007 2:05 PM, Angga Wijaya <anggaji@...> wrote:
>
> > Bukan Krishnamurtio atau Osho atau Sathya Sai Baba... tetapi
kita yang
> > tetap bodoh dan mau dibodoh-bodohi oleh lembaga agama atau guru-
guru
> > meditasi palsu yang ujung-ujungnya menguras kantong kita.
> >
> > Osho pernah mengatakan 'hanya orang kaya yang bisa menjadi
spiritualis'
> >
> > Saya setuju dengan perkataan Osho. Orang kaya minimal perutnya
sudah
> > terisi, yak lapar lagi, tak mencari lagi, tak mengais-ngais
rejeki lagi
> > dengan cara berdagang agama atau spiritualitas.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> Kecian deh orang-orang miskin, nggak bisa jadi spiritualis versi
Osho. :-(*
>
> Berdagang agama atau spiritualitas kepada orang miskin,
> tidak ada yang dikais-kais, apalagi dikuras.
> Makanya kalau mau berdagang agama atau spiritualitas
> harus kepada orang kaya, agar agar dapat menguras
> kantong mereka dengan hasil yang memuaskan ...
> 90 Rolls Royce Bo ! - tips dari OSHO
>
>
> OSHO (Controversy and criticism)
>
> Osho had a penchant for courting
> controversy.[51]< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-TOI3104>
>
> His liberal views on sex and emotional expression, and the
resulting
> unrestrained behaviour of sannyasins in his Pune
> Ashram,[52]< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-39>at times
caused
> considerable consternation, dismay and panic among people
> holding different views on these matters, both in India and the
> U.S.[32]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-NYT160981>A
number of
> Western daily papers routinely, and falsely,
> [53] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-40 > claimed that
Bhagwan, a
> traditional title for spiritual teachers in India, meant "Master
of the
> Vagina < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagina>", and focused their
reporting
> on sexual topics.
>
> Osho said that he was "the rich man's
> guru",[54]< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-41>and that
> material poverty was not a spiritual value.
> [55] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-42> He was
photographed
> wearing sumptuous clothing and hand-made
> watches.[51]< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-TOI3104>He
drove
> a different Rolls-Royce each day – his followers reportedly wanted
> to buy him 365 of them, one for each day of the
> year.[56]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-43>Publicity
shots
> of the Rolls-Royces (more than 90 in the end) appeared in
> the press.[23] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-FF1>
>
> In his discourses, Osho consistently attacked organisational
principles
> embraced by societies around the world – the family, nationhood,
religion.
> [57] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-44> He condemned
priests and
> politicians with equal
> venom,[58]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-45 >and was in
turn
> condemned by them.
> [59] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-46 >
>
> Osho dictated three books while undergoing dental treatment under
the
> influence of nitrous oxide
> < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide>(laughing gas):
> *Glimpses of a Golden Childhood*, *Notes of a Madman*, and *Books
I Have
> Loved*.[60] < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-47> This led
to
> allegations that Osho was addicted to nitrous oxide gas. In
> 1985< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985>,
> on the American CBS television show *60
> Minutes< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60_Minutes>
> *, his former secretary, Ma Anand
> Sheela< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_Anand_Sheela>,
> claimed that Osho took sixty milligrams of
> Valium< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valium>every day.
>
> When questioned by journalists about the allegations of daily
Valium and
> nitrous oxide use, Osho categorically denied both, describing the
> allegations as "absolute lies".[61]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho#_note-48 >
>
>
> Lengkapnya klik di http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho
>